Comments on: Wonka https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=wonka If it ain't woke don't miss it Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:16:49 +0000 hourly 1 By: BeckFamily https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-4325 Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:05:56 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-4325 12 percent woke this movie was woke as heck. For one they made the other entrepreneurs corrupt and evil. For two Wonka was mad at Noodle for trying to take some milk of of there neighbors porch and said to her that’s steeling and the milk he uses are from a giraffe so they poisoned ( in other words they tricked him into taking drugged up chocolate ) the guard at the zoo then broke in and milked a giraffe!!! how’s that any better then what she tried to do and on top of it they stole a lot of balloons and freed all the flamingos and later drugged up the guard again and then STOLE the giraffe!!! For three they made the preacher corrupt and stupid. For four they made the cops corrupt and stupid. For five they made all the white people evil or stupid even Wonka he didn’t know how to read and then the all mighty black 14 year old girl with a far better education taught Wonka how to read, all adult males are stupid or silly or both. And most of the black people were not shined in a good light other then three or four all the other black people were stopping Wonka’s dream. This movie was the most woke movie I have watched in a long time and I trusted your guys review and you said it was based and was more like 12 percent based and 88 percent woke. You guys need to fix your review cause it is super inaccurate and this movie was super woke!!!

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By: Sterra https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2736 Mon, 18 Mar 2024 02:11:51 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2736 In reply to James Carrick.

I find the argument that anyone was hired based on their race to be extremely lacking. The notion that people were hired for their race is an extraordinary claim, and as such, requires extraordinary evidence. Even circumstantial evidence, like if the casting director has verifiably cast actors for their race. But in this case, it seems as though the only thing you have shown is that, arguably, she was among the weakest of the cast. I don’t know if you consider her performance bad, just going off what you’ve presented. This is extremely insufficient evidence of this, and by presenting it unambiguously as a diversity hire makes similar claims seem weak, by virtue of the knowledge that your standard for declaring someone a diversity hire is extremely low.

Here is the standard that you should aspire for: proper verification. For example, when M. Night Shyamalan intentionally only hired white people for the three main characters of The Last Airbender (all of whom are non-white in the show) is roughly the level of what you should aspire to demonstrate. The problem with “she’s not good at acting” as evidence is because a lot of actors have a bigger career than their skill should allow.

Now, I think Chris Pratt is a fine actor, but he’s not a great actor. His biggest role was a supporting character in a cult TV show, of which he got minimal award nominations (to be clear I think he’s pretty funny in this role). Despite being a relatively obscure hit, he’s a major character in the MCU, he’s in The LEGO Movie, he’s Super Dang Mario! Once again, no shade, but this is a level of success that, to me, reflects a person who succeeded because he was well-liked by the people who hired him. There are so many variables that go into hiring that determining that a black person who cannot act must have been hired for diversity reasons seems like it’s a manufactured argument.

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By: Sterra https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2734 Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:43:51 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2734 In reply to Lawrence Newman.

My brother in Christ they owned slaves in the UK, what in the corncobbed hell are you talking about “there weren’t black people in the UK before WWII.” It’s not even a controversial statement, the existence of black people pre-WWII is *extremely* well-documented. That they existed in the UK is verifiable by photos and DNA testing of remains, with the earliest corpse belonging to a black person dating back more than 1000 years! The population of black people in the 1700s UK was more than 10,000-fold!

What you’re doing here is either you got manipulated into believing nonsense and didn’t bother verifying what you were told, or you are hoping people will believe a lie for your “identitarian” movement. (it’s just white nationalism, that’s all it is)

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By: Cuke https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2728 Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:07:19 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2728 In reply to Maverick.

The fact that your only reason for it being woke is because a gay person made it tells me everything I need to know about you.

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By: Cuke https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2727 Sun, 17 Mar 2024 22:58:07 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2727 In reply to Lance.

The fact that plenty of mediocre white actors are successful, and their skin is rarely described as the reason they are able to get a job in acting. This is even more magnified with child actors. Plenty of young actors are not that great, but the fact that she’s black is enough to say that her being black is what got her the job, despite plenty of young actors not being that good.

Fact is, she isn’t very good, but she’s not awful. She’s serviceable, and serviceable actors are not so uncommon in blockbuster films that a black person being serviceable – or worse, bad – in a major motion picture means that being black is why they got the role. It’s a standard unevenly applied, and worse, lacking evidence. No one argues that, say, Hollywood’s concern with whether black actors will make a movie sell worse in China means that bad white actors only got the job because they’re white.

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By: MBrez https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2459 Fri, 01 Mar 2024 18:41:34 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2459 In reply to Cari L..

She doesn’t overshadow him, but there is a line in which the enemies observing Wonka and his friends say that the girl seems to be “the brains of the operation” when that is very clearly not the case. Besides teaching Wonka to read (a skill he had, up until that point, gotten by perfectly well in life without and which he doesn’t really use in the movie) and helping him sneak out of the laundry house where he is indentured (which he could easily have done on his own), she does literally nothing to forward the plot. I actually got a really heavy “white savior” vibe because she was enslaved all her life and, despite supposedly being intelligent, only managed to get out of her situation thanks to the endlessly capable, brilliant, resilient Wonka.

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By: Roon https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2369 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:37:26 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2369 In reply to Dan.

“I am just surprised they didn’t see it.” Or maybe just maybe, you might be a silly human being bothered by absolutely nothing. This ######e is fictional. Anyone can do whatever they want with fictional stories. There is no obligation to stay true to the original story that was written on a leaf

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By: Roon https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2368 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:26:04 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2368 In reply to Dave Doyle.

Jesus christ dude. Who hurt your sorry ass? Did a black person ###### slap you to become a basement dweller that simply hates the site of them?

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By: Roon https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2367 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:25:02 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2367 In reply to James Carrick.

While I agree Diversity of thought is important and as you say meaningful. It’s not the only meaningful diversity. That’s a stupid thing to say, my dude. Do you think everybody was happy when movies were less diverse or had one black or brown person?
don’t you dare bring up some dumb ###### like but we had Sydney Poitier or Denzel and Morgan Freeman and nobody complained.

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By: Dave Doyle https://worthitorwoke.com/wonka/#comment-2366 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 14:47:48 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=13221#comment-2366 Too many blacks in the movie, forced racial inclusion takes away from the story. Black lead girl, smart black girl instructs dumb and white people. Black sergeant arrests evil bad guys at the end. Black librarian mom reunites with black girl. Blah , blah , black. The storyline is the same in all these movies. Black smart and good, white evil and dumb. Black this and black that.

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