Comments on: Argylle https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=argylle If it ain't woke don't miss it Tue, 25 Jun 2024 04:17:32 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sweet Deals https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-3031 Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:30:01 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-3031 Maybe instead of blaming movies for depicting women unrealistically being able to beat bigger men effortlessly, we should put the idea in its place.

We should point, laugh, and say to ourselves that we know this cartoonish nonsense is impossible, but it makes excellent wish fulfillment. We know it can’t happen, but it’s funny to see it. (At least, that’s how I felt after rewatching Spy Kids for the first time in twenty years. That movie is very, very cartoonish, and doesn’t pretend that it isn’t).

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By: Aaron Barlow https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-3024 Wed, 27 Mar 2024 03:24:25 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-3024 In reply to Bunny With A Keyboard.

Yeah, the ‘woman doesn’t need a man’ trope is getting tiresome. It’s like those Youtube interviews where girls are asked “do we need men?” and all answer “no” failing to realise that men build and maintain civilisation and it’s infrastructure, not to mention fighting in wars and making babies.
The Neo Marxist brainwashing is real.

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By: Bunny With A Keyboard https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-3023 Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:39:01 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-3023 In reply to Aaron Barlow.

I was just talking about how damaging it can be to the self-esteem, but your points are also valid.

Not to mention that boys raised with all this may well think “Why shouldn’t I hit her? I’ve seen many women who can beat men twice their size. It’d be misogyny to act like she’s weak and helpless.”

Or not being willing to help a woman in distress because they’re so conditioned with movies and TV shows that attack a man who does that. What I heard about the first episode of Wednesday was especially egregious, where a man saves Wednesday from having something huge fall on her head and she berates him for it.

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By: Aaron Barlow https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-3022 Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:00:34 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-3022 In reply to Bunny With A Keyboard.

Exactly, it can be quite dangerous to convince women that with some martial arts training they can take on much bigger, stronger guys. There’s a reason they have weight and gender categories in MMA or boxing.
Combine that with the ‘he won’t fight back because I’m a woman’ attitude and you end up with aggressive, entitled drunken behaviour from girls that can have dire consequences like being knocked out or killed.

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By: Bunny With A Keyboard https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-3019 Wed, 27 Mar 2024 00:23:22 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-3019 In reply to Aaron Barlow.

The claim: “These movies are empowering to women.”

The reality: “Look at how effortlessly other women handle men twice their size. Why is it that you’re so pathetic that a mugger in the park can knock you around with ease? Why can’t you just overcome with zero training or character development like all of these women?”

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By: Aaron Barlow https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-3018 Tue, 26 Mar 2024 23:55:46 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-3018 Then of course theree’s the fact that Howard easily defeats Rockwell in hand to hand despite her being a woman. Sigh, the standard girl beats men trope, although at least she’s not 150lb like many of the unstoppable girl bosses. Still fat weight can be a hindrance rather than an advantage.

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By: Bunny With A Keyboard https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-2667 Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:36:08 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-2667 “ Save the Cat! The Last Book on Screenwriting You’ll Ever Need” by Blake Snyder. This book goes over how to write screenplays for movies, but there are other Save the Cat books out there for novels, TV shows, and so on.

Whether you call it the hero’s journey, the transformation machine, or whatever else, the book series explains the process really well.

Contrast with how a feminist wrote “The Heroine’s Journey” back in the 70s which talks about changes the heroine should make in the Masciline and the Feminine.

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By: S https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-2658 Thu, 14 Mar 2024 08:42:42 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-2658 In reply to Bunny With A Keyboard.

The example with Luke&Vader is perfect.

No idea what save the cat is though.

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By: Bunny With A Keyboard https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-2410 Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:34:14 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-2410 In reply to RaisedVintage.

I consider the term woke to mean “saturated with left wing propaganda,” but this website has a more in-depth description:
Woke [wōk]: adj.– 1. the quality of ultra/radical-progressivism, characterized by the active eschewing of objective truth as well as traditions and societal mores that have been tried and tested for generations in lieu of nonsensical beliefs that defy logic and substantive supportive objective data. Ex: Roads are racist. There are no such things as immutable characteristics.

Now, one of the easiest ways to explain what goes into a story would be to read Save the Cat. That goes into screenplays; there are other versions for novels and many other such things.

When a hero fights a villain, it shouldn’t just be that one side is stronger. There should be an overarching theme to the story. If you’ve ever seen the Shazam movie from a few years ago, the theme is the importance of family. Male or female, in a good story, the character learns something that makes them better.

In a bad story, the heroine learns how awesome she is or something like that, and that’s it. This is because the woke propaganda is that women are all born perfect and held down by the patriarchy, which makes for an awful story.

You can do a character that’s born perfect and never changes, but such characters tend to come across as flat and boring to adults. That’s why characters like Superman get rewritten to go through this transformation.

Now, if they wrote it that the only reason she won is because the villain was holding back, compare that to a few other stories. Imagine if the only reason Batman won was because the Joker was holding back. Imagine if the only reason Superman won was because Lex Luthor was holding back. Insert various other male heroes and villains.

Suddenly the stakes aren’t quite so high. It doesn’t really matter if the hero wins because the villain doesn’t want to kill them.

The only real way to make this work would be how OT Star Wars did it in 5 and 6. However, when Rey fought Kylo, he went down even though she’d never held a lightsaber before and he had severe Force training.

Imagine how dumb the story would feel if Luke faced off against Vader in Episode 4 and managed to beat him in any capacity with a lightsaber. Vader would just look sad and pathetic, a forgettable villain for a hero that doesn’t deserve any real adversity to overcome.

Make sense?

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By: RaisedVintage https://worthitorwoke.com/argylle/#comment-2409 Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:03:51 +0000 https://worthitorwoke.com/?p=15428#comment-2409 In reply to Bunny With A Keyboard.

I’m replying again, I’m sorry. I didn’t see Shang Chi, but I understand what you mean.

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